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#5958483 · 24 Jun 2007, 13:35 · · პროფილი · პირადი მიმოწერა · ჩატი
| QUOTE | ი ეხლა მოგაწვდით რამდენიმე უტყუარ და ნამდვილ დებულებას და აგერ ნახეთ მეშვიდე სიგნში აქედან 80 პროცენტი მაინც თუ არ ახდეს.. დაიმახსოვრეთ ეს პოსტი..
1. გაითვალისწინეთ თავი "სევერუსი და სირიუსი".. ბლეკი ცოცხალია.. |
მაგის იმედი სულ მქონდა... ნეტა მასე მოხდეს...
| QUOTE | | 2. დამბლდორი აღარ გაცოცხლდება, ის მკვდარია |
მაგაშIც დარწმუნებული ვარ...
| QUOTE | | 3. დეიდა პეტუნია მაინც არ ითამაშებს რაღAც დიდ როლს. |
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ხო ისეთი არაფერი, პროსტა რაღაც ძალიან საინტერესო ინფო ექნება რა...
| QUOTE | | 4. სამაგიეროდ მნიშვნელოვანი იქნება პიტერ პეტიგრიუ, რომელიც ამ წიგნში მოკვდება საწყლად.. |
მეც მასე მგონია... ჰარის დაიცავს რომ მისი სასიცოცხლო ვალი გაისტუმროს...
| QUOTE | | 5. რემუს ლუპინს საბოლოოდ გადაძლევს მაქციობა და გრეიბექს შეუერთდება, ან ყოველ შემთხვევაში მოკვდება მეშვიდეში.. |
არა მგონია ლუპინი გაბოროტდეს, მაგრამ მოკვდება... ალბათ გრეიბეკს მოკლავს ან რაღაც...
| QUOTE | | 6. მეშვიდეში მოკვდება ვოლდემორიც |
ასიანი....
| QUOTE | | 7. ტრელოუნი ჰარის როცა სიკვდილს უწინასწარმეტყვეკებს, იგი ჰარის სახით ვოლდემორს ხედავს.. ეს ნაღდია, სწორედ ვოლდემორს უწინასწარმეტყველებს სიკვდილს.. |
მაგას კარგა ხანია ვამტკიცებ...
| QUOTE | | 8. ჰოგვორტსის ახალი დირექტორი ხდება უიზლი, რომ დასახიჩრდა აი ის, ფლერის ქმარი.. |
| QUOTE | | 9. გრიფინდორის მემკვიდრე ჰარია.. |
შესაძლებელია, მაგრამ არ ვიცი... როულინგს ეწერა რაღაც მგონი რაც მაეჭვებს... მაგრამ გოდრიკ ჰოლუ რომ ერქვა ჰარის მშობლების საცხოვრებელ ადგილსაც და გრიფინდორსაც რომ გოდრიკი ერქვა ეგეც საინტერესოა...
| QUOTE | | 10. სევერუსი სავარაუდოდ დიდ როლს ითამაშებს ჰარის გადარჩენაში და მეტიც იგი თავს გაწირავს მისთვის და ემსხვერპლება ვოლდემორს.. სევერუსი იქნება პერსონაჟი, რომელიც მეშვიდე წიგნის შემდეგ ყველაზე მეტად აატირებს პოტერომანებს.. |
ნეტა მასე მოხდეს...
| QUOTE | | 11. ჰერმიონაც შეიძლება დაიღუპოს, მაგრამ ეს უფრო არ მგონია.. |
არა!
| QUOTE | | 12. "და" აღსდგება.. |
ასიანი... ახალი ფენიქსის ორდენი იქნება...
| QUOTE | | 13. საფიქრელა ისევ ერთ-ერთი მნიშვნელოვანი იარაღი იქნება.. |
ალბათ...
| QUOTE | | 14, სირიუსი გადარჩება.. სევერუსი მოკვდება.. თუმცაღა ორივე ჰარისათის იბრძოლებს.. |
ნეტა მასე იყოს...
| QUOTE | | 15. ვოლდემორის სიკვდილის შემდეგ ჰარის სახიდან გაუქრება ნაიარევი.. |
შეიძLება...
lavren de monmarency
| QUOTE | 24. The Cloak and the Veil
პირბადე რაღა შუაშია? |
იმგლისურ ვერსიაში ხო veil ის ფარდაა, სირიუსი რომ გადავარდა...
ეს სახელები კი გავს მართალს მაგრამ მაინც ვერ გაიგებ...
კიდევ რამდენიმე ინფო ჯოს საიტიდან:
Snape was hiding under the Invisibility Cloak on the night the Potters died
No, he wasn't.
What is the significance of Neville being the other boy to whom the prophecy might have referred?
Finally, I am answering the poll question! I am sorry it has taken so long, but let me start by saying how glad I am that this was the question that received the most votes, because this was the one that I most wanted to answer. Some of you might not like what I am going to say – but I'll address that issue at the end of my response!
To recap: Neville was born on the 30th of July, the day before Harry, so he too was born 'as the seventh month dies'. His parents, who were both famous Aurors, had 'thrice defied' Voldemort, just as Lily and James had. Voldemort was therefore presented with the choice of two baby boys to whom the prophecy might apply. However, he did not entirely realise what the implications of attacking them might be, because he had not heard the entire prophecy. As Dumbledore says:
'He [the eavesdropper] only heard the beginning, the part foretelling the birth of a boy in July to parents who had thrice defied Voldemort. Consequently, he could not warn his master that to attack you would be to risk transferring power to you.'
In effect, the prophecy gave Voldemort the choice of two candidates for his possible nemesis. In choosing which boy to murder, he was also (without realising it) choosing which boy to anoint as the Chosen One – to give him tools no other wizard possessed – the scar and the ability it conferred, a magical window into Voldemort's mind.
So what would have happened if Voldemort had decided that the pure-blood, not the half-blood, was the bigger threat? What would have happened if he had attacked Neville instead? Harry wonders this during the course of 'Half-Blood Prince' and concludes, rightly, that the answer hinges on whether or not one of Neville's parents would have been able, or prepared, to die for their son in the way that Lily died for Harry. If they hadn't, Neville would have been killed outright. Had Frank or Alice thrown themselves in front of Neville, however, the killing curse would have rebounded just as it did in Harry's case, and Neville would have been the one who survived with the lightning scar. What would this have meant? Would a Neville bearing the lightning scar have been as successful at evading Voldemort as Harry has been? Would Neville have had the qualities that have enabled Harry to remain strong and sane throughout all of his many ordeals? Although Dumbledore does not say as much, he does not believe so: he believes Voldemort did indeed choose the boy most likely to be able to topple him, for Harry's survival has not depended wholly or even mainly upon his scar.
So where does this leave Neville, the boy who was so nearly King? Well, it does not give him either hidden powers or a mysterious destiny. He remains a 'normal' wizarding boy, albeit one with a past, in its way, as tragic as Harry's. As you saw in 'Order of the Phoenix,' however, Neville is not without his own latent strengths. It remains to be seen how he will feel if he ever finds out how close he came to being the Chosen One.
Some of you, who have been convinced that the prophecy marked Neville, in some mystical fashion, for a fate intertwined with Harry's, may find this answer rather dull. Yet I was making what I felt was a significant point about Harry and Voldemort, and about prophecies themselves, in showing Neville as the also-ran. If neither boy was 'pre-ordained' before Voldemort's attack to become his possible vanquisher, then the prophecy (like the one the witches make to Macbeth, if anyone has read the play of the same name) becomes the catalyst for a situation that would never have occurred if it had not been made. Harry is propelled into a terrifying position he might never have sought, while Neville remains the tantalising 'might-have-been'. Destiny is a name often given in retrospect to choices that had dramatic consequences.
Of course, none of this should be taken to mean that Neville does not have a significant part to play in the last two novels, or the fight against Voldemort. As for the prophecy itself, it remains ambiguous, not only to readers, but to my characters. Prophecies (think of Nostradamus!) are usually open to many different interpretations. That is both their strength and their weakness.
What happens to a secret when the Secret-Keeper dies?
I was surprised that this question won, because it is not the one that I'd have voted for… but hey, if this is what you want to know, this is what you want to know!
When a Secret-Keeper dies, their secret dies with them, or, to put it another way, the status of their secret will remain as it was at the moment of their death. Everybody in whom they confided will continue to know the hidden information, but nobody else.
Just in case you have forgotten exactly how the Fidelius Charm works, it is
"an immensely complex spell involving the magical concealment of a secret inside a single, living soul. The information is hidden inside the chosen person, or Secret-Keeper, and is henceforth impossible to find -- unless, of course, the Secret-Keeper chooses to divulge it" (Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban)
In other words, a secret (eg, the location of a family in hiding, like the Potters) is enchanted so that it is protected by a single Keeper (in our example, Peter Pettigrew, a.k.a. Wormtail). Thenceforth nobody else – not even the subjects of the secret themselves – can divulge the secret. Even if one of the Potters had been captured, force fed Veritaserum or placed under the Imperius Curse, they would not have been able to give away the whereabouts of the other two. The only people who ever knew their precise location were those whom Wormtail had told directly, but none of them would have been able to pass on the information.
Why did Harry have to forget the mirror he had been given by Sirius in 'Order of the Phoenix'?
I can’t give a full answer to this, because it is relevant to books six and seven. However, the short answer is that Harry was determined never to use the mirror, as is clearly stated in chapter 24: ‘he knew he would never use whatever it was’. For once in Harry’s life, he does not succumb to curiosity, he hides the mirror and the temptation away from himself, and then, when it might have been useful, he has forgotten it.
The mirror might not have helped as much as you think, but on the other hand, will help more than you think. You’ll have to read the final books to understand that!
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Memento Mori
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