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Interview: Satyricon
MetalChris: First off Frost, it is an honor to be interviewing you. I have been listening to your music for years and I want to congratulate you on the success of the latest CD, "Volcano". It is nice to see you guys finally getting the push, in the States, that you deserve. It must feel good to have a label that believes in your music and is doing their best to reach as many people, as possible.You have put out some of the most respected and influential albums in Black Metal history. Do you ever think to yourself, "Shit, how are we going to top "Nemesis Divina""? (laughs)
Frost: That kind of pressure which you refer to is absolutely there, and I guess Satyr as the creative brain feels that to a larger extent than me. It' s a necessity to go beyond one's previous works. But up till now we have managed (in my opinion we did for instance top "Nemesis Divina" BIG TIME with "Rebel Extravaganza" and then even more so with "Volcano"), and we will do that again. Pressure can indeed be a good thing, pushing you further, as long as the destructive aspect of it doesn't overshadow the constructive.
MetalChris: I must say the new CD is excellent! "Volcano" flows nicely and has many different textures. From "BLACK METAL ROCK N ROLL", "FUEL FOR HATRED". "REPINED BASTARD NATION", "TURE NORWEGIAN BLACK METAL", "MENTAL MERCURY". to the awe inspiring Darkthroneish epic closer "BLACK LAVA." This CD has a lot going on and is a CD you can listen to again and again. It never gets boring! "BLACK LAVA" is my favorite song on the CD. Can you pick out a favorite or favorites, any song in particular, when you were playing it back in the studio and said to yourself "Fuck yea, that is fucking brilliant!"?
Frost: My favourite songs are "Mental Mercury" and "Repined Bastard Nation", and it was those two songs that gave me the greatest kick while recording as well. They are both extremely intense and powerful songs, filled to the brim with darkness and some kind of splendour that is somehow difficult to describe, but which I feel is particularly present on the Volcano album.
MetalChris: I was disappointed that the tour you did recently, with Morbid Angel, didn't come to St. Louis. How did the tour go? Any wild stories from the road and do you enjoy touring in the States?
Frost: Fuck. You can't imagine how much I wanted to go on that tour.Still I am very happy that Trym could go in my place, so that the tour became a reality at all. The tour was a huge success, if you look away from the more practical situation the band had to deal with. Wild stories? Nah, I've heard a few, but feel no need to broadcast them.
MetalChris: I am excited, as hell, that you are going to be doing a headlining tour in the States and are playing St. Louis (yes). What is the set list going to be like? Are you going to concentrate mostly on newer material, or play material from all eras, of the bands career?
Frost: The material is picked from the entire career. Obviously there will be a focus on the Volcano material, but every album is represented.
MetalChris: What is the story on you not being able to get into the States to tour? Joey, from Slipknot, is going to handle the drumming on the tour, correct? Good choice! I saw Slipknot, at Ozzfest, and they tore it up. A great live band. How did you hook up with Joey?
Frost: I have a criminal record and am therefore denied a work visa in the U.S. The case which it all stems from is ten years old, but you know how strict things are these days. We have tried REALLY hard to get me in, but we didn't succeed in the first round. Perhaps we'll make it later. Anyway, Joey is going to do a good job. His attitude is very good, and so are his skills. I'm really happy he can do the tour, and I guess he is too. Joey has been a friend of Satyr for quite a while and is a dedicated fan of Satyricon, so asking him to do the job I am hindered from doing was an obvious thing.
MetalChris: We get a lot of great Death Metal shows, in St.Louis, but we need more Black Metal. Other than Immortal, Dimmu Borgir, and occasionally Mayhem, most Norwegian bands don't want to tour. Any idea why that is and how cool would a tour be of Satyricon and Darkthrone?
Frost: I guess you can't just go over to the U.S. and tour. It's fucking expensive, and you need some financial support if you are to do any stateside touring activity at all. That weeds out most of the smaller bands, I suppose. Then Black Metal hasn't really been a big thing in the U.S. up till now, which have further contributed to make U.S. tours an economic jeopardy. The situation seems to change, luckily. Black Metal is gaining ground, and the resulting effect will probably be that more Norwegian bands come over to tour. However, hoping to see Darkthrone on tour is futile wishthinking, I'm afraid.
MetalChris: Speaking of Darkthrone, the song "BLACK LAVA" mentions Black Metal 1990-1995 in the lyrics. On the last Darkthrone CD, on the song "RUST", they mention early Black Metal. In retrospect, how do you look back on those early days now? Did you know Dead and Euronymous? I know many people are fascinated by Norwegian Black Metal 1990-1995, so to speak. You have the unique insight of being there, all I know is what I read from the book "The Bloody Rise of the Satanic Metal Underground". What can you tell us about those hallowed days of old, when the churches were on fire in Norway, and christianity was exposed for what it was (a complete fraud)?
Frost: Black Metal as a whole, as a phenomenon, was something extreme and exciting in the early nineties. Every new (Norwegian) BM album was a milestone; I remember looking forward to the releases with a kind of excitement and enthusiasm I can hardly feel now. And the BM movement itself. it had such a dark and weird atmosphere. It is my opinion today that my understanding of what was going on was very shallow at the time, but I did nonetheless feel that special atmosphere and was marked by it, which I am glad that I had the opportunity to. Whether Christianity was suffering any serious injuries as a result of the church fires, now that's a different question. Rather to the contrary, I suppose. But the burning churches for sure provided some strong symbols and images.
MetalChris: One Last thing about the early days. You guys were all so young when you were creating this music we all worship now. Which is, of course, "True Norwegian Black Metal". Did you have any idea, at the time, that the music you were creating would forever change the underground Heavy Metal scene as we knew it and create a whole new sub-genre of extreme metal? Or were you just tearing it up and rolling with the punches and getting in trouble? (laughs)
Frost: We were ambitious as hell from the start, but we had no idea it would get this far. And it's going further still! What we knew in the early days was that we had the will and potential to be a spearhead in the Black Metal genre, but we couldn't conceive of the possibility that Black Metal itself would expand to such an extent that it has now.
MetalChris: What do you think about the Black Metal scene in Norway now? I like your other band 1349. Carpathian Forest is still great and the new Mayhem is excellent. Do you think Norwegian Black Metal is on the upswing again? Are there any new up and coming Black metal bands that you like?
Frost: The Norwegian BM scene is still strong as hell! Don't be fooled by all the worthless releases that are categorized as Black Metal but which are either not Black Metal at all or completely lacking quality. I'd say there are as many, or more, good bands now as there were 10-12 years back. It's only the RATE of good bands/albums that is smaller, since BM (or "BM") releases are being spewed out on the market with continuously increasing frequency. Yes, the bands you mentioned are great ones; Satyricon is better than ever, the forthcoming Aura Noir album is a jewel, Gorgoroth stands strong (the next album will be great!), Disiplin gets better and better and there are more obscure acts like Orcustus and Furze that breeds Darkness of the very finest quality. The forthcoming Gehenna album is fantastic (and pure BM this time), and you can expect top notch releases by for instance Dцdheimsgard and Keep of Kalessin in the foreseeable future. And there's more.
MetalChris: The metal scene, in the States, seems to be on the upswing with many great new bands coming out. Who are some of your favorite bands in the States? Are you influenced, at all, by any of the newer bands?
Frost: I haven't had the opportunity to hear any of the later American releases. I personally like Possessed, Slayer (three first albums), Dark Angel, Death (demos + first album), Von, Necrophagia and Necrovore to mention a few. Thornspawn is band that may have gotten somewhere, I remember that an old demo of that band was quite promising.
MetalChris: The video, for "FUEL FOR HATRED", is great! Do you enjoy making videos or is it a pain in the ass? Any cool, sleazy stories from the video shoot?
Frost: Making the video was really exhausting, but also very inspiring and rewarding. Not to mention the highly satisfying outcome! I am extremely content with that video and how well it is done. We all are! Hmmm.you want sleazy stories again? Perhaps we'll write a biographic book one day. It would be wrong to reveal the juicy details now.
MetalChris: You have had a long and successful career in this business. We have 3 great Black Metal bands in the St. Louis area (Harkonin, Aminion, and Emaciation) who all cite Satyricon as a major influence (and are jealous I am doing this interview right now) - (laughs) What advice would you give to up and coming bands? What has been the key to the longevity of Satyricon, when so many other great Norwegian Black Metal Bands have come and gone?
Frost: We are into this because we have a deep passion for it. That has got to be the key element. We are highly conscious about what we are doing, that 's another important thing. We don't let coincidence or external forces lead us as far as Satyricon goes; when we do something it is a result of our own will, whether we speak of the music itself, cover lay-out, visual presentation, lyrics or any other band related issue. We have total control. We have clear visions, and we have the will to fulfil them, to improve and develop as needed, to get in connection with the right people that can help us reaching our goals. And we NEVER copy anyone - ourselves included. Stagnation is death.
MetalChris: Ok, Frost thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule, to do this interview with us here at AllThingsMetal.net. I will see Satyricon unleash hell, December 11th, at Pops in Sauget, IL. You heard it right here, folks! December 11th, at Pops. Finally, Satyricon, LIVE spreading the evil in our own backyard. Okay, Frost, please feel free to close the interview out any way you want...
Frost: Hail to all those that support Satyricon in the U.S.! Never accept the mediocre; if you want Black Metal go for the REAL Darkness. Time's out for quasi "BM", weed out the worthless shit NOW while Black Metal is planting it's roots.
MetalChris: Enclosing, I want to thank "Lord Kirby Ray", of the mighty Emaciation, for his input on this interview and thank you Jennifer, of AllThingsMetal.net, for letting me interview one of my favorite bands of all time - Satyricon! I also want to send hails out to the guys in Harkonin, Aminion and Emaciation for keeping black metal alive and well in the great city of St. Louis. The Underground will rise indeed!