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Wembley lynch mob haunts FA
Steve McClaren is a rabbit in the headlights when it comes to international management.
Paul WilsonMarch 31, 2007 11:45 PM
At the start of last week, when everyone was coming to terms with the poverty of the goalless draw in Israel, someone from within the Football Association let it be known that what England needed was 'a leader, not a coach'.

When considered carefully, this comment tells you all you need to know about the present undignified shambles surrounding the national team.

1) Steve McClaren is manifestly a coach and not a leader, so why did the FA choose him? When other available options included the dynamic and successful Guus Hiddink and Luiz Felipe Scolari, not to mention the charismatic Martin O'Neill and the impressively gruff Sam Allardyce, what leadership qualities did the FA have a right to expect from the candidate who had spent six years as Sven-Goran Eriksson's bib-and-cone man? McClaren did not forge a reputation for leadership at Middlesbrough, where just over a year ago the fans flung torn-up season tickets in his direction and the senior players were credited with the turnaround that took Boro to an unlikely Uefa Cup final.

2) Real football countries set more store by coaching than leadership. Obviously a manager must have the respect of his players, but it is the personnel he selects, and the way he asks them to play, that should make the difference at international level. England thought this too as recently as 2000, when they appointed Eriksson on the strength of his perceived tactical ability. They had just tried an inspirational leader in Kevin Keegan, only for him to quit and admit he didn't know how to change things around on the pitch.

3) The FA themselves do not set much of a leadership example. The above quote was, naturally, unattributable. People such as Brian Barwick and Geoff Thompson rarely stick their heads above the parapet to say anything on the record, unless it relates to the number of toilets at the new Wembley or the size of the television deal just negotiated. Their lack of visible, public support for McClaren this past week has been sickening. They might not feel like supporting a man who has already lost the fans and has presided over some of the worst performances in recent memory, but not only did they choose him, they did so after one of the most extensive interview processes in history. Eight months on, McClaren is floundering on his own. The FA should either sack him promptly or back him properly, except that either would smack of firm leadership.

For all these reasons it was not difficult to feel sympathy for McClaren on a windy Barcelona hilltop when he was the certain loser, whatever the result on the pitch. That much had been ensured in Tel Aviv, where the game threw up so little action the media spotlighted the discontent of the fans. Terrace anger actually first surfaced in Zagreb in October, when groups of supporters confronted England players as they left the stadium, although the next day's papers were full of McClaren's first defeat and Paul Robinson's howler. In Israel, there were no such distractions. McClaren heard the verdict from the crowd and the fans saw their feelings reflected in the media. These things quickly develop a life of their own and by the Andorra game the abuse had become both organised and intensely personal.

The Brazil friendly before the next qualification game in Estonia in June may now see Barwick's second worst fear (behind non-qualification for Euro 2008) become reality. The FA could find themselves opening Wembley with full pomp and circumstance to 90,000 fans chanting for McClaren's head. Or calling him a wanker. Even if the inaugural Wembley audience is too polite for that to happen, you wouldn't bet against it in a subsequent qualifier.

In the circumstances, it was unsurprising that McClaren ended his press conference abruptly with a catch in his voice and perhaps a tear in his eye. In doing so he managed to make himself the issue, despite avowals not to, but he is only human. It was just a pity that his scorn for the press made no distinction between the writers and the titles who have been childishly making fun of his predicament and those that have been offering more realistic assessments of the difficulty of the job. At least one journalist had been vigorously defending Frank Lampard in print on the very day the player was reportedly trying to book himself an early flight home.

Is the job difficult? The man bellowing foul-mouthed insults from the Olympic stadium terrace appeared to think not, although Michael Owen offered useful perspective when he said that of his 80 caps he could count the number of excellent England performances over 90 minutes on one hand. Everyone should try this exercise.

Over the past decade, most people's stand-out games would include results away to Poland and Italy en route to qualifying for France 98, Argentina at St Etienne in that tournament, the 5-1 against Germany in 2001 and - at a push considering the decisive goals came in the 89th and 90th minutes - the loss to France in Lisbon in Euro 2004. Victory over Argentina in Japan 02 was also impressive, although, as Owen himself admitted, England were hanging on for dear life at the end.

So, what conclusions can be extrapolated from such a list? The first and most obvious is that England's best performances were all more than five years ago; the second thought is that Glenn Hoddle could not have been doing that much wrong after all; and the third observable pattern is that all England's best performances have occurred against top opponents in matches where the result mattered. This is the difference between England and, say, Northern Ireland, and why Lawrie Sanchez's excellent results and motivational qualities should not necessarily see him catapulted into McClaren's job.

England have realistic hopes not just of qualifying for tournaments but of doing reasonably well once there. Their best displays will ideally be saved for when they need to progress past Italy, France or Argentina. It's probably best not to mention Portugal or Brazil. Northern Ireland do not attend many tournaments - although good luck to them this time - so for most of their players beating Sweden or England at Windsor Park is as good as international football gets. The situation provides the motivation in both cases. What you need from a coach is a means of beating the opposition.

It is naive to expect England to be at the top of their game against Andorra or Israel. They need to be adequate in such matches and McClaren is struggling to deliver to an extent that people are starting to talk fondly of Eriksson's dull but efficient way with qualifiers.

Ironically, England are quite likely to play well against Brazil - they usually do - or the next major team they meet. But that will be the players' achievement, not the manager's. Senior players, in fact, are already taking matters into their own hands. John Terry and Steven Gerrard mean well - they are attempting to fill the vacuum that is forming around McClaren with some unequivocal support - but the only other time you hear players defend their manager in such a way is when he is a caretaker. The language gives the game away. McClaren is not going to be long-term. Even a sensational performance in Tallin is unlikely to save him, because he has nowhere to turn for support.

He has already disappointed the FA and the supporters, and, while the players might back him verbally, McClaren would far prefer their boots did the talking. His big decision on David Beckham has boomeranged and the Frank Lampard question has been fudged. Worse still, from McClaren's point of view, his faith in presentation and positive spin must be shattered after Barcelona.

The psychologist Bill Beswick's idea to front up the media on flying in from Israel blew up in McClaren's face. Newspapers refused to accept his ludicrously skewed version of events. Seventeen goal chances? Do away shots now count double or something? The preprepared short statement after Andorra was ill-advised and poorly executed, emphasising only that expensive dentistry and news management cannot disguise the hunted look.

Except when McClaren boarded the team coach after the game in Barcelona, he did not look hunted so much as caught in the headlights. He sat alone up front, staring ahead through the giant windscreen, once or twice forcing bonhomie with Terry Venables to prevent anyone remarking on the distance between them. He wanted nothing more than to be whisked away, yet this was no magic carpet and the coach stubbornly remained stationary. For over half an hour.

For a manager obsessed with image, this one may come to define him: McClaren on full beam ahead, his assistant at his side and his team right behind him, FA employers somewhere in the vicinity but not immediately evident - all going nowhere. Destination Austria and Switzerland? Only after a car crash.

მაკლარენმა დაიგინა არ გადავდგებიო

ესეც ინფო,ჭკვიანი,ალალი და ამ შემთხვევაშიც მართალი კაცის ნათქვამი Montella: I miss Italian football Sunday 1 April, 2007

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Fulham man Vincenzo Montella admits he misses Italian football and the passion of the supporters. “In England it’s like they’re going to the theatre.”

“The thing I miss the most about Italy is the great passion for the sport that the fans have,” he told RAI television programme ‘Quelli Che il Calcio’ this afternoon.


“Obviously I mean the positive and legal support that transforms into sheer love for the squad. In England people go to the stadium as if they were going to the theatre.”


The striker left Roma in January for a loan spell at Fulham, but has never hidden his desire to return to Serie A as soon as that six-month period expires.


“I live in the centre of London, which is a beautiful city, and there are many Italians who help me to feel a little more at home. All things considered, I cannot really say this is a bad experience.


“When I decided to leave Roma, I did so because I realised I would not have much space there. I also liked the idea of an overseas experience and the opportunity to learn English.”


Montella had a great start to his career in the Premiership, but quickly hit problems and has just returned from a ban.


“As soon as I arrived I settled in really well, playing and scoring immediately,” continued the former Sampdoria forward.


“I had a few problems and ended up on the bench. I even had the first red card of my entire career.”

ნუ ხო, პროსტა ვიალიმ ჩელსის აბონიმენტი მაქვს და ყველა თამაშს ვესწრებიო
რატომღაც არ მგონია დევიდ პლატი იტალიაში დადიოდეს ყველა კვირა, მითუმეტეს იქ ცხოვრობდეს...

Tottenham accuse Spanish police

Officials clashed with away fans at Sevilla's stadium
Tottenham have accused Spanish police of hitting a disabled fan after trouble broke out during Thursday's Uefa Cup tie in Seville.
Riot police charged the away fans midway through the first half, leading to ugly scenes at Sevilla's stadium.

Spurs club secretary John Alexander said: "We know one disabled fan was hit with a baton with such force that it knocked him out of his wheelchair."

Uefa has already pledged to launch an investigation into events.

Tottenham have offered their full support to the authorities.

"Our initial reports suggest there was no fan-to-fan fighting at any stage of the proceedings," said a club statement.

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"As such we are seeking explanations as to why the police reacted in the way they did with our fans.

"Tottenham supporters have enjoyed an exemplary reputation across Europe this season which is why tonight's events are unprecedented.

"We will be co-operating fully with Uefa, the British Embassy and the Spanish authorities to understand why this has happened."

The police intervened midway through the first half as the away fans voiced their anger at a contentious penalty won by Sevilla.

The fighting continued into the half-time interval but died down when Spurs officials persuaded the Spanish authorities to take the police out of the away section in the second half.

Many Spurs supporters have accused police of over-reacting.

"It had been a perfect day up to then but was was spoilt by some over-zealous police officers, who started throwing their weight around, for want of a better term," said Daniel Wynne, of Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' Trust.

Any talk of sanctions is pure speculation

Uefa spokesman

"After the penalty, a couple of fans got a bit excited about that but nothing more than shouting at the pitch. There was no violence.

"Spurs fans weren't causing any trouble. The police went over and above acting as stewards."

The scenes followed violent clashes between fans and police in Manchester United's Champions League tie in Rome on Wednesday.

Uefa has launched investigations into both flashpoints, but communications director William Gaillard said possible sanctions for any of the clubs involved had not been discussed.

"Any talk of sanctions is pure speculation, it has not been discussed," he said.

"The control and disciplinary body is a a fully independent body and we and they will look at the evidence."





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LA_NY
ჰოდლზე რო დადე გოლები თუ გახსოვს? ვერ ვპოულობ, იქნებ ისევ დადო?

აუ ეს მაკლარენი დაგვღუპავს ჩვენ

ფუ ეს მიდლსბრო და მანჩესტერ სიტი იმენნა ამაზრზენი გუნდებია რა. ჩემზე რომ იყოს გავაგდები ლიგიდან
მარტო ჩვენს ფედერაციას შეეძლო იმ გუნდის ტრენერის მოყვანა რომელსაც middlesbore ეძახიან. საზიზღარი გუნდია. ამათმა დანიშნეს იმ პონტში რომ ფერგის ასისტენტი იყოო და მანჩესტერის პონტში ათამაშებსო. იმენნა იდიოტების და არაპროფესიონალების ჯოგია. მაგათი ბრალია კლაფის და პეისლის ნაირი გენიოსები რომ არ ჭრთვნიდნენ ნაკრებს

KINGALAN
სიტი არა მარა ჩარლტონი და მიდლსბრო

აუ ამ მწვრთნელით ევროპაზე გასვლას რა აზრი ააქვს

მორიგი საინტერესო სტატია მსოფლიოში საუკეთესო გაზეთიდან. მგონი ამ სტატიებს მარტო მე და LA_NY ვკითხულობთ


No place like Rome for eternal troubles
Man Utd fans were victims of a country that refuses to accept it has problems.
Paul WilsonApril 8, 2007 12:04 AM
So were Manchester United justified in warning their fans to expect trouble in Rome, or did well intentioned advice turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy?

Certainly the club should review their policy of pointing out no-go areas and casually branding rival supporters as dangerous if it raises tensions to the extent it did on Wednesday night.

United could be a tad more careful with their language and indeed a little diplomacy would not go amiss. It hardly behoves a city frequently in the news for gun crime and murder in Moss Side to suggest that one of the world's favourite tourist destinations is unsafe.

Yet Jean Leonard Touadi , the Rome security officer whose outrage over United's 'slur' on his city inflamed the situation along with hostile comments from other local politicians, was being disingenuous when he suggested visitors had nothing to worry about.

'Statistics have shown that Rome is one of the safer cities in Europe,' Touadi said. 'It is certainly a lot safer than London and many English cities.' Statistically that may be true. Rome is generally a welcoming place and the only hazards most visitors have to look out for are pickpockets on the Via Veneto or imitation designer goods being hawked on the Spanish Steps. But football visitors are different. Different people are involved and different rules seem to apply. From the perspective of the fan wearing a scarf, travelling in a group, sitting in the away enclosure or, worst of all, tangling with the police, Rome has absolutely no right to proclaim itself safer than London or many other English cities. Its record is terrible, the television pictures of what might euphemistically be termed enthusiastic zero-tolerance policing were wearily familiar, yet still Italians are smug about their safety standards and convinced the fault lies with everyone else.

There is no need to go into detail about the rights and wrongs of what started the trouble in the Olympic Stadium on Wednesday, because it is such an old script everyone knows how it goes. Doubtless the English fans were not impeccably behaved and they should not have reacted in any way to bottles and seats being hurled over the barrier in their direction - that way the carabinieri would have had no reason to charge in with their sticks. But if you believe such a scenario is possible, if you go along with the idea that English fans are always looking for trouble or somehow unable to avoid it, you also have to believe that Roma supporters were entirely innocent and intent only on watching the game. 'Very passionate and correct,' as the Roma manager Luciano Spalletti put it. But, with 10 United supporters treated overnight in Italian hospitals for stab wounds, that would stretch anyone's credulity and it's not as if Wednesday was an isolated incident.

A policeman was killed at a Serie A game two months ago. Even if that was in Sicily, Middlesbrough and Liverpool fans have been stabbed in Rome in recent years and when Glenn Hoddle's England earned qualification for France 98 at the Olympic Stadium 10 years ago it was to the backdrop of another baton charge by police at visiting fans. The FA set up an inquiry and concluded that the Italian authorities had not only ignored advice from UK police officers but were responsible for 'deliberate intimidation and sometimes extreme provocation'.

That's right, only 10 years ago we had an FA who were not completely useless but would back England supporters if they thought they were in the right and identify the real villains using unequivocal language.

The present lot seem incapable of backing their own manager, eight months after deciding he was the only man for the job, but back in the days when the FA had a voice they raised some concerns about stadium safety and policing in Italy that any recent visitor would have no difficulty in recognising. There was no effective stewarding or adequate signage, English fans were moved to the wrong part of the ground and when Italian supporters began throwing missiles at them the police stood and watched. When a handful of English fans began retaliating, police wielding batons moved in and beat them.

The 1997 FA conceded that some English fans had been drunk and disorderly before hand and that not all had behaved impeccably in the stadium. The Italian authorities conceded nothing, claiming the FA's report 'showed only one side of the event'.

Obviously not much has changed there in 10 years, though Rome is not known as the Eternal City for nothing. English football fans have largely cleaned up their act in that period of time and, while it would be foolish to pretend they are now perfectly behaved, it would be even more ridiculous to swallow the Italian line that they deserve everything that comes their way.

The bottom line is that when Roma fans visit Old Trafford on Tuesday, even after the unpleasantness and provocation that have just taken place, they will be better supervised and a whole lot safer than their English counterparts were in Rome. Sevilla supporters can be equally confident that a visit to Spurs will not involve a short stay in hospital. The crime rates in English cities might leave much to be desired, but our stadiums are safe. Manchester United, who have just been through harrowing experiences in France and Italy, might be better off exporting their crowd control know-how rather than clumsily informing their fans of the all-too-true facts of life in other countries. Uefa could do worse than take a look around a few English stadiums and force Continental grounds to follow suit. It's not that difficult. All you need are enough stewards, enough responsible police, enough lights and directions and a certain amount of goodwill.

The last might be the most important. Football crowds are not like theatre audiences, there will be incidents, unruliness, provocation and reaction. And, in the case of English fans, drunkenness, let it be said. But the first rule of crowd control has to be an even-handed acceptance that trouble can arise on either side of the fence. In short, control the whole crowd. All too often in Europe the assumption seems to be that trouble will come only from the visitors. Uefa's promised inquiry, if it looks closely enough, might notice that the police in Rome could assault only the United fans because the Roma supporters were behind a Perspex barrier.

While we wait for Uefa's delegates to make their reports and draw their conclusions, here's a suggestion for the short term based on the 'When in Rome...' principle. Every English fan attending a game in Italy should take a crash helmet, wear it to the game and behave himself. It might not work, but it would make wonderful guerilla theatre.

Ref right to tackle slowing Scholes

Sir Alex Ferguson took loyalty to breaking point when he defended Paul Scholes and attacked the German referee who dismissed him in Rome.

Herbert Fandel had actually been quite lenient towards Scholes, who offended regularly and could easily have been sent off before the 34th minute.

To be booked twice in just over half an hour in such a big game says it all really, except it might be worth adding that Scholes is 32, has already missed a European Cup final for exactly the same reason and has only just completed a domestic suspension, albeit for an attempted punch, after being dismissed against Liverpool .

It says a lot for Scholes's footballing ability that many people, even now, reckon he would be a worthy footballer of the year. Yet the worry for United is that his tackling ability, never anything to shout about, might be getting worse as age slows him down. His timing will be under the closest scrutiny between now and the end of the season.

Tallinn tall order

The first striker on Steve McClaren's England teamsheet in Estonia has to be Peter Crouch. With Wayne Rooney suspended, even if Michael Owen is fit again by then, and even if Andy Johnson is banging in the goals for Everton, a game against a small team like Estonia calls for a big guy like Crouch.

Why? Because Estonia are highly likely to pack their defence and play for a draw, just as Israel and Andorra have just done. And the one thing McClaren's England conclusively proved in those two matches is that pace does not count for much if there is no space behind a defence to run into.

What England need, in a situation such as that, is a forward with the ball skills to beat an opponent or two and make space for himself or a chance for a colleague. But Aaron Lennon is more of a kick-and-chase winger than a wizard of the dribble, Paul Gascoigne retired years ago and Cristiano Ronaldo is ineligible.

Joe Cole is the best bet, though he has been injured all season. So in Tallinn, bring on Crouch, with his height and his new, improved heading ability, and let's have a barrage of high balls aimed in his direction. And let's not be apologetic about it either. England have no obligation to play fancy football against teams determined just to shut up shop and, to be honest, they have no aptitude for it either. Two can play ugly. Let's just take the points and move on, as McClaren would say.

სამი ინგლისური გუნდია ნახევარფინალში. მაგარი ლიგა აქვთ ინგლისელებს. მითუმეტეს სერიაA-ს გაფარჩაკების მერე მაგრად გაინავარდეს

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