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BBC Radio World Service 09/28/12
BBC News Hour
BBC Radio World Service: Georgia saw violent demonstration and resignation of interior minister after videos were published where inmates of men's prison has been sexually abused. Crime scenes were particularly sensitive given the situation that Georgians are few days ahead of the parliamentary elections and it's also highly embarrassing for President Mikheil Saakashvili who is seeking for the re-election. But now the expert from Lithuania called by authorities sees the evidence of sexual abuse doesn't stand up.s
The expert is Romas Raudys Director of State Service of Forensic Medicine of Lithuania.
Romas Radisious is being asked by BBC Radio Journalist how he got involved in this case.
- First of all I heard of the case on television and then our Ministry of Justice got in touch with me and send me to Georgia in connection to this events. During my visit time in Georgia I was able to talk to two prisoners who feature in this film. Because I was in Georgia as an medical officer Forensic expert, I was mostly interested if there has been any sexual abuse with objects and when they answered they calorically denied the fact that they being abused with any object and they said that they have been mistreated various ways but they denied that there was any sexual violence against them. They only told me that they were told to stand and do certain things. One of them told me how he exactly how he was asked to behave in a certain way but the second one didn't want to talk about this. During my visit I told Georgian officials that I needed to examine the detainees and see if there were signs on the body of such kind of objects that supposing were inserted inside them and there were no such signs in those part of the body that they should have been. And from medical point of view I deny the fact of sexual mistreatment of the kind that was shown in the video.
BBC Radio Journalist: Do you think this was staged?
- As far as my conclusions are concerned, I went to the Georgia as a doctor and I can only give you medical evidence, I have my private opinion but I have no right to say it.
BBC Radio Journalist: But some people will say it is inevitable politician, you are brought from friendly government, government of Lithuania and you found what you were expected to find.
- If any doctor friendly or otherwise goes to Georgia and examines the same people, they will come to the same conclusion as there are no evidence of sexual abuse on their bodies.
Later on BBC talks to Irakli Alasania telling him what the doctor said.
- Let me tell you that this brutal scenes of the torture points out into profound way that there is a organic structural problem in the system of the governance of this country and those around the president are part of culture of non-responsibility, denial . We all saw this scenes, Georgian public saw this and what the gentleman was saying lacks the credibility. Possibily, he wasn't shown the same prisoners that were abused directly in this way -- this is on TV, it is on footage. What Georgian people saw on the TV was brutal, was a torture and was a rape. And what we saw in this streets of Georgia is that Georgian people don't want to have the government which tolerates the torture.
BBC Radio Journalist: That is not the point that this all coming on the eve of the elections and to a lot of people this is simply election earring , why to put up the video now?
- We don't know how they surfaced, what we saw in reality is 21st century inquisition and Georgian want to put an end to this and they will put out their verdict on October 1st election.
This post has been edited by Le Roi on 29 Sep 2012, 13:29
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